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>>You are so right, John. The CIA was doing everything right until Clinton and the Democrats came along and gutted it. It's an outrage!
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>But it is true that Clinton played ostrich on intellignece issues. See Woolsey's memoirs about not even getting the normal face-to-face national security facetime with the President - and many times just being left cooling his heels with no explanation.
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>The gutting of CIA came earlier - 1975 on with a minor resurgence when Casey came along, and he was mostly concerned with figuring out how to run things off the books - risky if potentially effective. (I still have some theories about the Iran hostage deal - hope I live long enough to see memoirs telling me if I'm on track)

I hope so, too ;-)

That was my point, that problems in the CIA did not start with Bill Clinton. Not that he did them any favors.