>Well, my grid base class handles the case you mention--since 3.0 didn't have allowaddnew. If MS did as you suggest, I'd be horrified because I generally really like to control what happens when a record is added.

I don't think you'd be "horrified." You would simply set AllowAddNew to .F., since your own code does a better job.

>AFAIC, there is no such thing as "intuitive."

Quite right. We bandy that word around a lot. We really mean "requires little or no learning," i.e. it conforms to behavior we expect.

>one of my users absolutely expects allowaddnew to operate as it does--she does (sort of) heads down data entry in a grid and naturally arrows down when she's done with a row. My other users who _don't_ do heads down entry don't have a clue they can do this--they click on an empty row. <

I should have said that I think simply focusing the empty row at the bottom of the grid should add a record. Whether that's done by the keyboard or the mouse would be the user's choice.