You wait months? <grin>, Seriuosly - this is a fresh install win95/visual studio - I also work with VB6 and before I make a build for distribution I always reinstall so I don't have other third party dll/ocx's etc laying around that may have gotten in and may not be compatible. I found I could duplicate this on an MDI form even in a new project. Thanks for the help!

Gary


>Short of nuking your current setup and starting from scratch, I am not sure what else to do. I run WinNT Workstation - and need to reload things every 6 months.
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>>I have tried both the 5 (SP2) and the 6, but niether show. I also tried >putting a slider bar on the form and it would only show after I repeatedly >click in the area that I thought it was located. This is really wierd.