>>>I just can not see myself doing this
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>You need to remember this was a ported application. I am sure if it was done from scratch, things would be very different.

Yeah, I remember that part. I was just curious about the form designer part that got interjected. I have ported in FP 2.x screens into VFP forms. But have done enough in VFP's form designer to where I would rather recreate them from scratch.