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VFPConversion Seminar - May 9-10 - Dallas, TX
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Visual FoxPro
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Conférences & événements
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Thread ID:
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If you are talking about specific MVPs you should name them. Don't leave it to assumption. I always tell my son, if you have a problem with someone, you go straight into their face and tell them what it is, like a man. The same theory can go here as well. If you have a problem with anything that Kevin, Marcus, Rick or any other MVP don't be ashamed to list their names. That will at the very least clear the air and you won't upset other MVPs (which may hold the answer to your next problem).

I usually remain quiet and watch all these conversations go on but as you point out, why remain quiet. Now, I don't see Kevin as trying to kill FoxPro, Kevin alone can't do that, Kevin and Marcus can't do that, only the FoxPro community can do that, by not buying the new releases of FoxPro. If you put things in a different point of view your message may sound like "don't teach anyone .Net so that everyone using FoxPro will use FoxPro for the rest of their lives", or even, "don't teach FoxPro developers new skills, allow them to be stuck with their current skills forever".

Fact is, .Net may pose to be a viable solution for many people. If it doesn't do that for you then keep doing what you're doing and more power to you. What about the FoxPro developer who could have made some money doing a FoxPro -> .Net conversion but has to pass up on the project because they lack the skills?

Kevin and the other MVPs are doing exactly what have gotten them to that status in the first place... Helping people. Just because what they're doing at the present moment doesn't help your current situation doesn't mean what they are doing doesn't help someone else somewhere.

So to assist you in some of your training names I'll toss in my two cents:

- Take on projects you couldn't have before
- Learn how to determine what the best tool for the job is (part 1)
- Use the best tool for the job (part 2)
- Expand your skill set and become more valuable to your company and youreslf



>>Can you provide any facts that congfirm your "conspiracy theory" or you just feel like insalting all MVPs for no reason?
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>You're a kind of person that I will really enjoy to discuss that problem.. Because, I do believe that you really makes every one of those letter has great sense.. IMO, you're the best reference that anyone can have here at UT.. (or even outside)
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>First of all.. My goal is not to insulting MVPs.. Excuse me.. If I let me be misunderstood.. If I said that some lawyers are not filling all the requirements of professional ethics.. This is only based on something that I just have seen, read or testified.. So, IMO.. MVP are the best recognition that MS and our community can give to anyone involved on great actions for the V.F.P. community..
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>It is a fact.. That some good part (in numbers) of VFP's MVP are involved on any kind of project co-related with trainning or applications on others non V.F.P. tool.. Very normal this.. No problem, at all.. But, If they start to use his trophy or his own pin to receive the attention on campaigns like this one.. Here is the problem.. For sure this wasn't the first one that we saw here.. And, I'm sure was not the last one..
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>I even want to give them new trainning names for the future:
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>. 10 top reason to kill foxpro
>. How to survive after foxpro has dead
>. How to go to dotNet (because fox will die someday)
>. Learning to use dotNet because foxpro will be discontinued
>. Foxpro is about to die.. Just go right now to dotNet..
>
>Feel free to help me on more names.. :)
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>But, keeping quiet on situations like that, it is completelly against the main purpose of a forum.. If I am wrong please correct me.. For what reason we discuss many and many things here.. I understand the mutual grown (professional and personal) are the final goal.. Are not ?
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>And I understand if we keep quiet (as community).. And, If we don't open a verb, (the only weapon available for us).. That is no reason to stay in a front of a monitor..
>
>
>>>I totally agree..
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>>>We have here a great problem, that involves a thing named professional ethics..
>>>
>>>A long time, Microsoft is giving MVPs pins to people, exactly to turn them disciples of practices like these..
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>>>But, for sure the MV letters (of MVP) must be changed for LP (little puppets)
>>>
>>>Hey.. and, I am not talking about all of them.. We really have great "MV" men among them !!
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