>>Are you sure, you need it? Take a look at article Using GDI+ in VFP 9.0 with the FFC Library, Part 1 by Walter Nicholls at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnfoxtk04/html/ft04h1.asp?frame=true > >I skimmed that article but it appears that it has the same shortcomings that the form line method has (wrt my app). Everthing drawn has to be relative to the form coordinates.