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VFPConversion Seminar - May 9-10 - Dallas, TX
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09/04/2005 20:32:41
 
 
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09/04/2005 13:24:50
Walter Meester
HoogkarspelNetherlands
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Visual FoxPro
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>Hi james,
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>>You may not see any reason to go to .Net in the current situation you are in. However, what about the people whose situation matches what Kevin describes? Or, lives in an area which puts them in the situation Kevin describes? What about the developer that could have taken on a project but has to turn it down because they are not proficient enough in .Net?
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>People should know themselves what to do, esspecially if people are presenting them as programmers. If they just take blindly advise from anyone else, then I don't think much of their quality of programming and problem solving.

Usually when I make a decision I like to make an informed decision. In order to make an informed decision I need to know what the advantages and disadvantages of each option are. I may do certain things to gather this information, like read some articles, play with a trial version, or ATTEND A SEMINAR. What better person to teach the advantages and disadvantages of both FoxPro and .Net than a FoxPro developer (MVP even) who is also a .Net developer (MVP there as well)? No one ever said anyone is taking blind advice from anyone. Kevin is in a position being an MVP in both areas to shed light on what those advantages and disadvantages are. Kevin's advice is not "blind" advice he is a person who has seen, been on and is currently resides on both sides of the fence.

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>>You're right, .Net is not the only answer to make a living,
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>That is my point. .NET (in it current state) might not be the answer people are thinking it is.

But can you at least concede that for SOME developers it MAY be EXACTLY what they are looking for. And that each developer is allowed to make their own decision on what is right for them?

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>>and I haven't seen either of the Kevins state that it was.
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>Qoute: "But the bottom line is this: as time passes, more and more Fox people will find themselves in situations where they need to learn .NET skills to maintain their careers."
>

While the statement may or may not be true I don't see anywhere in the quote where it says Java or PHP or Python WON'T benefit a developer. That is simply because being multifaceted will benefit ANY developer whether they learn .Net, Java, PHP, Python or whatever else. Did they say learning Java or Python is a waste of time?

What do you say to a developer that is being forced by their company to learn .Net? Or the independent developer that needs to pass up a project because they are not proficient in .Net? Fact is, .Net is not the only game in town, however it is the only conversion seminar Kevin is putting on and he's allowed to do it. Just becuase he is putting on a VFP->.Net conversion seminar does it obligate him to do VFP->Python and other seminars as well? Can we look forward to a seminar from you on converting VFP apps to Java or Python?

Can you at least concede that there are SOME developers that may NEED to learn .Net to maintain their carrers?


>>Perhaps a developer is familiar with Java and PHP but now wants to add some .Net to their skill set. If someone chooses to make a living with .Net as well as VFP should they be blasted on this forum? What about some who chooses to help those that wish to expand their skill set to include .Net (and do it in such a way that it would benefit FoxPro developers more than it would developers of any other language)? Should that person be blasted as well, for helping or offering help to VFP developers?
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>I generally have no problem and I'm not flaming kevin for that. Though I wonder if the VFP forum is the right place for such announcements. If a VFP programmer is interested in .NET he'll read the same message from the .NET forum. IMO, there is no need to push this down the throat of all VFP forum subscribers.

For a seminar dedicatd to helping VFP developers I think the announcement is EXACTLY where it should be, in a VFP forum. I am semi interested in learning some .Net but I don't currently use .Net and have no questions or anything to post in the .Net forum, therefore I would have never seen the announcement there. I do frequent this forum since I use FoxPro daily and often have questions that I post in this FoxPro forum.

Kevin is not shoving anything down anybody's throat, he simply made an announcement. Shoving it down a throat would be equal to having a pop show on your screen 20 times a day. If it is for you or would benefit you then you can take the information regarding the seminar and sign up for it. If it is not for you just pass on by and go to the next item in the Forum.

In short, if it is not for you just move on to the next forum topic. But please allow Kevin to post his announcements here without giving him grief so that people like me can read them.

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>Walter,
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