Terry,

>I'll put anything I have (or can do) up against a "framework" project anytime and will blow it's huevos out of the park!

I think there may be a disconnect here in what you and others consider to be frameworks.

Question: Do you ever reuse any code from one project to another, or do you always create everything all over from scratch every time? Do you have any subclasses of VFP base classes that you use in more than one place?

If yes, then you are using a framework -- your own framework, but a framework nonetheless. To me, framework simply means a collection of reusable code that makes me a more efficient programmer. The framework code can be classes or utility programs, in Class Libraries or in PRGs, and can be written in-house or bought from a third-party vendor, or in many cases a combination of the two.

It seems like you think frameworks are just program generators that force you into a certain type of UI. That is not what frameworks are to me.