I started with Codebook also. Never went beyond that, because whereever I have worked, they have always had home built frameworks. We are now in the process of integrating our framework with MM.net in preparation to move our products to .Net.

Sound investment and sound strategy in my book.

>I built my entire career on the Codebook and MM Framework. They are most certainly not an application generator, but more of a philosophical approach to application design.
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>>Nor to any professional programmer.
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>>>It seems like you think frameworks are just program generators that force you into a certain type of UI. That is not what frameworks are to me.