Steve,
>>I too, respectfully disagree with you on these points...
The difference is that neither of us will turn this into a personal slanging match to try to get a rise out of the other. Presumably we agree on that?
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us."
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1