>>I don't know why everyone gives you such a hard time; you seem like a decent guy to debate with.
I'm embarrassed to report that I haven't noticed anybody trying to give me a hard time! If you tell me who it is, I promise I'll try to display more of a sense of grievance.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us."
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
