>>Reasonable enough David?
>
>Being reasonable is so not-sexy - be unreasonable (but be polite and professional - as you always are) - challenge the status quo - otherwise - before you know it - you'll be walking around - with a sound -
>rin a tin tin
>rin a tin tin
>rin a tin tin tin
>tin tin tin
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>ringing in your ears. And end up working a help desk and talking to DBAs at big "financial institutions"!
>PS
>When you "game" a "suck-up" - you need to overact a bit - see how deep you can rub before the mark notices it - but do it politely and with a bit of wit attached:-) Sometimes they notice it not - hmmmm ... a product of Regean era schooling!

LOL

I found something else to pass time. I just subscribed to a bridge club. All old folks. This environment will be good for my temper. Perhaps some knitting too when I get back home after those meetings.

I'm afraid it's too late Terry. Give up <g>