Kelly, I think we agree.
I also think that VFP people deserve more latitude in their own clubhouse than self-proclaimed outsiders who cause most of the trouble in the first place. I'm not talking about JVP there, or about this post in "Chatter", but about certain recent saboteurs who came to the VFP forum to be gratuitously foul where JVP was not. I'm mainly referring to the cynical "information imbalance" tactic observed by one person in particular. They repeatedly present one convenient anecdote as if it is a killer argument supporting their point. It isn't viable to ignore them because these threads are public and the saboteurs create a snowstorm of FUD and falsehood that would dismay any neutral outsider unfortunate enough to stumble across such a thread. So people try to engage reasonably, but further snippets of convenient anecdote are revealed to make the counter-argument look silly and allow another round of scoffing and disdain. The only viable response to such tactics is to challenge the reliability of the provocateur. Normally polite people are loathe to do that until provoked to the extreme, at which point they risk being ejected from the forum.
IMHO this pattern of antagnostic and disrespectful behavior is deliberate. There has been a lot of it so IMHO we can expect to see some residual sensitivity around here for a while yet. JMHO.
Regards
j.Rr
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us."
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1