LOL @ "...It looks more like the wild west than it does careful, reasoned, planned and 'crafted' software development."

That line made my day, thanks Jim.


>Geez, it sure does.
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>That was some time ago, relatively speaking. Hopefully things (though probably not their names < s >) are better since then.
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>But it does serve to show one of my concerns about (personally) moving too early into .NET. It looks more like the wild west than it does careful, reasoned, planned and 'crafted' software development.
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>cheers
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>>Sounds like it has a lot more problems than just it's name. <g>
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>>http://blogs.msdn.com/craigskibo/archive/2003/09/30/51677.aspx
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>>>Doubtful... following is where I saw the word:
>>>"Visual C++ 2003 supports hosting .NET winform controls in unmanaged code, you can wrapper native .NET controls in MFC. You could even expose them to VFP through the use of an MFC ActiveX shim.".
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>>>Now this was NOT from a MS employee, so I am assuming that the writer is using the term in a context related to some Microsoft 'design'.
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>>>That makes three of us who have different definitions for "shim" in the programming context. I'd call that chaotic. Language is supposed to make things CLEAR. Well, technical language is.
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>>>cheers, and have a good holiday.
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>>>>Even though I agree with you of the misuse of the word "Shim" in relationship to programming. But I was thinking. Would a blank line inserted in a block of code to ais in it readability be considered a shim?
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>>>>>Renoir,
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>>>>>Yep, I have the same definition of "shim". And I just can't see how the word can apply in any way to programming.
>>>>>No matter what they MEANT, it's stupid and grossly unhelpful to suddenly start using a word for something that cannot fit at all. We all end up making up our own definitions, which is a surefire way to achieve chaos.
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>>>>>Microsoft is the master of this device.
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>>>>>cheers, and enjoy your long weekend.
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>>>>>>A shim in my world is something used to support something by taking up some space. Like putting pack of matches under a table leg. Or a real cedar shim in a doorframe. Maybe they meant it as coding something not in the standard - or cleanest - way to solve the problem.
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>>>>>>>Recently someone here wrote something like "... code a shim to ...". "Shim", I asked myself. What the hell would that be!?!?!!! I chalked it up to another Microsoft invention.