>>>I'm saying that if a person's morality is not based on the Bible, it is a wrong morality
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>>This is why starting with the enlightment in the 18th century that thinkers started to move away from Christianity.
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>Think what you want...Proverbs 14:12 - "There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death." I'm just telling you the facts - it's up to you whether or not you believe them.

Howard, the mistake you are making is that you are quoting the Bible as your source of proof. However, the Bible itself is in question in these debates. It's a catch 22. Can you not see this? You cannot use the Bible as your proof unless you first prove the authority of the Bible in the first place, which cannot be done objectively and instead requires one to have faith. Therefore all your arguments come down to "the Bible says so". Which is the same argument that children have when they say "coz I say so".