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>>>>I'm saying that if a person's morality is not based on the Bible, it is a wrong morality and in the end will lead to eternal punishment in Hell.
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>>>Sweet. That means I'll spend eternity slamming beers and hitting the bong with Lucipher, Jimi Hendrix, my Uncle Joe, and Al Capone. You get to listen to Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson stroke each other's egos.
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>>No - you (if you are an unbeliever) will spend eternity enduring eternal torture. There will be no beers.
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>So let's see. God wants you to enter his Kingdom. If you're unfit for his Kingdom he sends you to Lucipher's.
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>There, according to God, you won't have a good time.
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>It sounds like Hell serves a purpose for God, a torture room. But that would mean Lucipher runs his shop the way God wants him too. But God and Lucipher are enemies. Lucipher was thrown out of the Kingdom because he didn't do what God wanted him to do.
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>So why do you suppose that Hell is going to be as God wants it, to serve as a scare tactic, when He is not in charge there?
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>Something's amiss here. I'm pretty sure Hell will have beer. (I've got a plan to smuggle some in anyways, so its all good.)
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>>>>I think all people have some sort of morality - but - again if it's not a Biblical morality it is immoral in the site of God.
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>>>You upset God. He's grown tired of your complancy with millenia old knowledge and your unwillingness to explore his Creation.
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>>I don't understand your point.
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>No, you probably never will either. Fortunately all of us deep thinking types (not you) are familiar with the Noble Lie, a practice that has been in use well before Christ.
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>Under the Noble Lie we present a grand vision and view of the world that lifts our spirits. Of course, within this vision there are carefully placed contradictions, that when examined, lead us to another conclusion.
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>The purpose is that such a view can be given to two different people: the sheep or the leaders.
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>The sheep will not be able to recognize the contradictions, so they will accept the conclusion presented to them despite its inconsistencies. Such a lie is called the Noble Lie because if it is accepted as truth, even though it is not truth, it is constructed in such a way that the sheep are probably going to benefit from adopting their lifestyle to the Lie.
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>On the other hand, the leaders will recognize the contradictions. They'll see the arguement for the crap that it is. They'll find the real conclusions of the vision, but only after some difficult thinking, and they'll be deeply rewarded for that. But despite knowing that the Noble Lie is indeed a Lie, and despite knowing the Truth of the matter, they'll continue to perpetuate the Lie.
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>Why?
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>Because sheep are stupid, and truly don't care enough about the Truth to undertake the long journey required to uncover it. Their best option is to settle on some benign half-truths and try to acheive happiness that way.
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>If that isn't obvious to you, you are a sheep, and will never understand my point. And I'm not particularly interested in spelling it out for you.

I think you just did. Or at least to us thinkers.
Greg Reichert
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