>>>On the subject of religion and marriage, it amuses me that religous groups claim ownership to marriage. Marriage predates christianity by thousands of years.
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>>Okay - you're going to have to prove that one - can you?
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>The pagans had (and still do) "handfasting" ceremonies, akin to marriage where they pledged their devotion.

I contend that marriage started in Genesis 2 with Adam and Eve. Do you have something earlier than that?