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>>The situation is now that, Afganistian and Iraq have replaced their oppresive rulers (a good thing), and for the first time the (alleged) enemy Iran is sourrounded by friendly and accountable governments (a good thing), and all that it required was a few little strategic lies....
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>and a bunch of inocent lifes

There is that.

But is saving 50,000 people's lives worth keeping a 5 million oppressed?

(That's not even taking into consideration future generations.)

I think it takes someone to look at the big picture. Even if the neoconservatives are people I would never like to party with or invite to dinner, they seem to be looking at the big picture more clearly than anyone else in a position of power.