>>>>There are proofs, I just don't need those to help me believe. You can take a look here is you'd like: http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/bible.asp
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>>>There shouldn't be proofs. Proof denies faith. Faith defies proof.
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>>You asked for proof (I thought.)
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>There can be no proof - religion is that perfect construct that is self-contained and can't be proven or disproven by outside means. You either believe or not, but can't really prove anything.

Ah, what kind of "proof" do you mean: "evidence that this is so" or "a test" (as in proof-reading)?

>From an outsides POV, man, that's really vane. What would he need the glory for, anyway?

Another of your favourite homynims: This "vane" is the cock that sits on a church spire, telling you which way the wind's blowing. There's a "vein" that carries blood, or gold, and "vain" that likes to look in a mirror.