>>>>>And yet, we are punished for tring to teach are children respect and morals.
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>>>>Really? How?
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>>>Perhaps, I over stated myself. Here in America, the schools, the parents, even our churchs are being watch very closely for ANY signs of child abuse. But the definition of child abuse has been getting narrower and nerrower. Our children are being tought this. So if for say, a parent raise their voice to their child, it can be considered as phychological child abuse, and they can charged for it. And as I said, the children know this, and use it against them. This has been my observation, and I hope I am wrong.
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>>Certainly not my experience. There's no question that most forms of physical punishment are now considered child abuse, but I've never heard of a parent getting in trouble for simply raising his or her voice.
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>>Tamar
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>I hope this is an insolated incident.
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>A few years back, I was dating (actually living with) a girl friend of mine. We were asked to come to her 10 year olds school and speak with son's consoler. During the meeting, the consoler informs us that from a random selection of students, they had spoken to her son. They had asked him if his parent (my girlfriend and I) had ever raised their voice to him in order of punishing him. He had told the consoler "yes". The consoler proceeded to inform us that this is not a proper means of disciplines, and if they heard of any more such acts that they would have no other chose then to report it to the Child Protection Agency (CPS). This shock and amazed both of us. But the worse of it is that the consoler even informed her son of this piece of information before hand. From that moment forward, when ever he needed to disciplined, he would remind us that we can not raise our voice to him. Suddenly, he had all the power in the family. When he messed up, there was little we could do
>to correct it. Yes, we would softly and correctively talk to him, but all he would is smile knowingly.
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>It was this lack of control that eventual ended our relationship.

I've witnessed a similar situation myself. When I used to live in PA, a next door neighbor of ours had a daughter that would call the Child Protection Services any time they would try to disipline (or raise their voices to) her or her sister. The daughter and her sister eventually paid the price for those calls though. When her father passed away, the agency sent her and her sister to foster care because of the repeated calls and deemed their mother "unfit". The grandparents tried (unsuccessfully) to try to gain custody, but that was not an option due to their "record" of calls.