Thanks for the code examples. I was bound and determined to get/build a control that would automatically loop my text which requires that I determine how much space the text actually needs (variable) which can get very complex with wrapping etc. Based on your examples I've decided to just repeat my desired scrolling text 100 times or so, crank the height of the editbox control, and just set that to scrolling up. In this manner it gives the illusion that I have the text one time on an infinite loop and has the benefit that it is much easier to program.