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Judge: School Pledge Is Unconstitutional
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15/09/2005 16:35:48
Dragan Nedeljkovich (Online)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
 
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>So your basic arguments are:
>It is divisive.
>
>So as a country then we should all be united? Then lets get rid of all religions. As that surely does not unite all of us. I mean to have all those people belieiving different things, now that is truly divisive.

Ah, the second non-sequitur in the same thread, nice. First "removing god from ..." - to make it sound as if someone is trying to ban any mention from any public (or tax-funded) place. I thought this was about "no establishment", i.e. the state should do nothing that would make it mandatory for anyone.

This second one - how do you envision the religion being an uniting force? Each religion has "we are right and everyone else is wrong" as their first axiom. They are divisive by definition.

This doesn't by any stretch of logic mean that all those people believing different things can't unite at all. If that was true, we'd never have a single bucket brigade. So as much as I may wish to see the number of believers reduced to the present number of unbelievers (but I think they should exist - for the sake of keeping the cultural heritage, at least), I don't see the beliefs as a dividing factor, as long as they aren't forced upon anyone.

>You say it was not there before and should be removed.
>Well then you hit upon the real core fix. Congress can change it back correct. But unless I miss my guess that would require votes from people willing to say that God had no part in building this country or sustaining it, and thus all reference to a being that is supreme to us should be removed. I don't think you have the votes.

So it's not a matter of principle or constitution, it's a matter of the political balance du jour. Are you saying that even though he may be right, it can't be done today?

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