Tom, this is irrational and populistic talking only.


>When I grew up during the 60's in school, believe it or not, we had in the secondary schools....
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>1) Morning prayer
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>egads!!!
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>2) Morning bible stories..!!!
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>NO!!!!!
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>3) And........ about 30 minutes of going to the auditorium to sing......... HYMNS to the Creators Glory!!
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>OHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....
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>Guess what we didn't have....................
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>Idiots coming into the schools with Automatic Weapons and slaying students.......... the worst we had was kids smoking in the johns............
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>AND........ no one ever complained about the Bible and God being in the schools. And we had all types of people there and different religions besides Christian.
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>But, hey.. let's go ahead and remove all vestiges of God from the Schools and Public life. The gun producers need new clients to sell to......
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>Tommy
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>>>So your basic arguments are:
>>>It is divisive.
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>>>So as a country then we should all be united? Then lets get rid of all religions. As that surely does not unite all of us. I mean to have all those people belieiving different things, now that is truly divisive.
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>>Get rid of? No! Why?
>>Just don't mandate it by law in a secular country. Much to the chagrin of the current neocon administration, this is not a theocracy. This is not Saudi Arabia. You are free to pray any time to any god, or none if you so wish. Just don't mandate it by law that everybody has to pray.
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>>>You say it was not there before and should be removed.
>>>Well then you hit upon the real core fix. Congress can change it back correct. But unless I miss my guess that would require votes from people willing to say that God had no part in building this country or sustaining it, and thus all reference to a being that is supreme to us should be removed. I don't think you have the votes.
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>>>So what are you left with, lets see liberal Judges. A solution where the minority over rules the majority. That is really going to be fruitful down the road. This is what is causing major divisiveness.
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>>It is not a question of political leaning of this or that judge. It is a question of upholding the law, which we do not seem to do that well in this country when there is a law that we don't like.
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>>Judges don'make the law. Congress does. And sometimes Congress votes illegal (read unconstitutional) laws. Sometimes they change the constitution. Sometimes they ammend it in stupid ways to make the law more like they like it to be. For example Prohibition, an ammendment that had to be repealed.
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>>You do not like the current Constitution? Would you prefer to be in a Christian Theocracy where everybody has to pray to Jesus? Fine. Write your Congressman and Senators. That is the way to accomplish the goal. Tell them your wishes.
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>>Until the Constitution is changed, the pledge has a problem.