>>I
feel and even indirectly
see it every day.
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>Yes, what you see are the results (note that the UT didn't seem to display all of your sentence in your message, but my quote above includes the omitted words).
(My UT displayal shows all text properly.)
>>So, what's your real argument?
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>Point is, you don't have to see something to know that it is real. I look at the Universe and wonder how it all came about. Does it make sense that it "just happened" without some sort of catalyst? In my mind, no. On another front, look at people whose lives have been changed after going thru a Christian conversion. These are examples of indirect evidence (results) as well.
Huh? What kind of reasoning is this? As I pointed out, I
feel the wind and indirectly see it. Moreover, science has proven wind to exist. If I could not feel it or sense it with one of my other senses and science couldn't prove its existence also (while having tried to prove it) and if, instead, science came with proof that makes its existence unplausible, then I would have said that it doesn't exist. And that's exactly what's the case with your God.
About your catalyst theory, tell me, who or what created your Creator???????
About your indirect-evidence theory, psychology has far better theories about what happens to converted people.
>>Do you think that I deliberately attacked Bret?
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>I don't know, but it seems to be common for those that do not believe to patronize or talk in a condescending manner to people of faith.
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>>I don't want to be crude or arrogant. But first let me search up the definition of 'arrogant':
Marked by or arising from a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others>
>Interesting. Your comment about Bret being "still in a phase that is normal for children" would seem to be arrogant by the definition you cite. The implication is that you have "grown up" and he has not. That carries an air of superiority from my perspective.
Well, in this case you should not have snipped (removed) the sentence that followed. By removing that line my above text gets out of context.
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