Dragan

>>Hey Dragan,
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>>So, I wander off for two years and come back and you're still treading the same old ground. *chuckle*
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>>1) How the heck are you?
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>The heck fine :). I was worried that you were MIA somewhere - though I figure Craig would chime in if something happened.

Nahh.. Just VERY busy and I wanted to take a break from the folks here who were talking AT each other rather than WITH each other. I suspect you and a few others do this for sport. <bg>

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>>2) Get a copy of 'The Case for a Creator" by Lee Strobel. Here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0310241448/102-0533621-6062547?v=glance
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>As our dear friends on the right would say "look at the other titles from this guy - he has an agenda, and is obviously biased".

Well, allI can suggest is that you read through the book. He actually asks a lot of the difficult kinds of questions one should (IMO) ask. And there are lots of referneces. But, if you make your mind up before the proof I can't help you. What was that quote abotu praying v thinking again? <bg>

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>Actually, what's he doing? He's dismantling the very base of belief. Belief doesn't need proof; proof is actually an antidote against believing. Once a thing is proven, you don't have to believe anymore - you got proof. And you can demand proof for the rest as well.

I would disagree. Here's where I thik you have a mis-apprehension. Belief is not the opposite of faith. Now it isn't tha same as faith either but they can co-exist and there are many many Christian folks who are every bit the thinkiners that non-believers are. The supposition that in order to believe one must stop thinking is absurd, though I will admit that far too many Christians are 'out there' to give the lie to what I am asserting. However, when you start with that presumption you've already chosen your conclusion and that's not good thinkign I'd suggest.

There is lots os proof for intelligent design. I'd go so far as to say more for it than against it but to answer the specifics you'll need to read and investigate for yourself. Merely asserting your position without investifating is no more an open mind that what folks will often accuse me or people like myself of, now is it?

Closed minds are closed minds no matter what they don't let in.

And please don't take that as a personal remark. It is not meant to be one.

Best,

DD

Best,


DD

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