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The Real Story Behind My Reasons for Leaving Microsoft
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22/09/2005 09:11:57
 
 
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22/09/2005 01:42:55
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Visual FoxPro
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01051597
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01051923
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I have worked for some large entities myself. The government, Morgan Stanley, BB&T, etc. I have also worked in small mom&pop companies. The benefits afforded employees at larger companies are much better of course and in the U.S. we mainly depend on insurance provided by our employers. In all cases, I have had terrific bosses and bosses that I hope I never see again in this lifetime under any circumstances. I have learned that everything depends on management and your direct supervisor. Even if you truly enjoy your day-to-day work and you have a manager that spends everyday making you miserable, your whole life suffers. It is never worth it. I wish you well in the future and thank you for your contributions to VFP and the community.


>Hi, Perry, LTNS!
>
>To be absolutely fair, MS is nothing like IBM was in the 80's. I worked with (not for) IBM during that period and the regimentation they imposed on their employees was extreme.
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>Basically, MS employees now work under more or less the same conditions as employees in any other large firm. Gone are the stock options, the highly weighted stock purchase plan, and the 6 month bonus.
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>Employees still receive annual bonuses, but they haven't been that much the last few years and you need to score fairly high in the ratings to get one representing a fair percentage of your salary.
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>Instead of stock options, employees now receive grants of stock that vest over a 5 year period. Generally speaking, the value of these grants is roughly $1000-2000 per annum for the vesting period if one sold the stock the minute it was vested.
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>MS offers one of the best employee insurance plans I have ever seen. They have yet to penny-pinch in that area.
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>In summary, MS is still a great place to work if under the right management in comparison to other large companies. But it's no longer a great place to work in comparison to other high-tech companies; in fact, it's falling behind.
>
>>It's interesting to read a story like yours and put everything in perspective. I read a book several years ago about the history of IBM. When they were describing the period where MS and IBM were working together on OS/2 (before MS went their own way on Windows), they describe MS as a company exactly opposite of the company you've described.
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>>And the cause of the friction between IBM and MS was because IBM operated exactly as you describe MS operates today.
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>>You'd think the folks who've been at MS from the beginning would remember history and do everything to not fall into the trap they are obviously falling into.
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>>>Thanks, Greg
>>>
>>>The majority of my issues, personal and professional, began a few months after your contract expired.
>>>
>>>Ummm....I was your lead :-)
>>>
>>>>Frighten story. I am glad I was not a tester for the VFP team. Wait a minute; I was, during the 8.0 version. As a matter of fact, if it was not for your support and understanding, I probably would have quit the contract early.
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>>>>I was unaware at the time that you were having so many problems. I knew the tasks you had should of qualified you as a Test Lead. And as by direct contact at the time, I acted as if you were my lead. You made my experience there enjoyable. Thanks John.
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>>>>P.S. If you ever need a reference, you are welcome to include me. You can get most of the bio about from my membership page here.
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