Okay, time to get off my duff and order the upgrade....

Albert

>>Not sure what I am missing here: if I turn on scroll bars for a form, that is say 700 x 500, I observe the following:
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>>1) unless an object extends over the edge of the form, scroll bars do not appear
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>This is by design.
>And you cannot put object into negative zone.
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>>2) if an object is over the edge, the scroll bar appears but the full object does not appear
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>Fixed in VFP9
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>>3) if I resize the form so that the object appears, the scroll bar goes away
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>See 1)
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>>I can live with the scroll bars not appearing but what should I be doing so that the size of the window stays the same but the "real estate" "inside" of the window grows so that I can put more objects "inside" of it that are then visible when the user moves the scroll bar. Somehow I should not be touching THISFORM.Height or THISFORM.Width....?
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>>This is really a conundrum...
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>>Albert