Denis,

I know you are reciting this from impressions only. Here's my impression:

I have not talked to one single person doing dotnet development who is having problems with the tool. Not one. And since I have a VFP background, quite a few of these folks came from the VFP world. I don't hear any complaints.

And I don't think that history is quite as you propose it is. I really don't think that the decrease in the usage of VFP that began 10 years ago is totally the fault of MS marketing.

Many corporation's quit using VFP because they wanted a more robust database environment. Such as Oracle, SQL Server, etc. They also found that VB functioned just as well as a front-end as VFP could.

Not that I would support his speaking tactics and style, but John Petersen made some posts here about how he was able to accomplish his goals quite nicely with SQL Server/VB. There were many here who wanted to learn from his experience and many here who just wanted to slam him at that point.

I just don't buy your views on this.



>What you do is not really important Dan. because it's in VFP.
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>What I do is not important. Because it's in VFP.
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>.Net has to be pushed and that by all means. And to get it their way many will scare people. Usually when you don't have solid arguments you scare people.
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>A friend of mine told me this. He read a book (I think Bill G. Book). That book was made before .net was known. In that book there was a mention of GM being a huge user of MS technologies.
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>Just recently GM decided to go with Java. What is it they did'nt like about .Net?
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>Perhaps we could do some searching on the reasons and use those to scare business about .Net and propose VFP ;-)
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>>>Yeah - that Security Fear really sells.
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>>Yeah, people turn down Fox due to security concerns.
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>>They seem to forget that there has only been one security alert/patch for VFP in the history of the product, and THAT was to turn off ActiveDoc support which had two years earlier been a big marketing feature!
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>>Instead, they'll use SQL-Server without a second thought. Does anyone remember Blaster?!?!?!?!?!
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>>(shaking head)
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>>We fight it all the time, but we're big enough in our market niche that everyone comes back to us eventually. It's actually funny to watch. Some IT goon will turn us down because we're Fox-based, and the company is back two years later. Invariably we've already written the data conversion program from whoever they've been using since we get conversions from EVERY ONE of our competitors on a regular basis. (And some have paid us big bucks to convert from "us" to "them" because "them" can't quite bring it about.)
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>>(shaking head)
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>>The same IT goons that want to set up a SQL-Server are the guys who will set up a "file server" running WindowsXP and blame *us* when it crashes with 100 users hitting it. We're supposed to trust them to set up and properly administer a SQL-Server?!?!?!
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>>(shaking head)
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>>There's just entirely too much idiocy in the business world.