That, Mr. Winter, is the best I've seen since I have been conscientously reminding myself to stay upwind when conversing with Network Admin types.

It defies common sense. Why, in a shop that has MS servers and MS desktops, filled with MS apps, would some low-on-the-pole "no" guy deny the installation of a project developed with a microsoft programming language that was logo compliant? There are suck-a_s "Net" programmers and suck-a_s "C++" programs too. But some somehow those are Mr NA's radar? Give me a break!

It's insane. The world is, indeed, upside down. More evidence of the "crappy guy" syndrome that seems to have clogged the creative and fiscal prospects of "maturing" companies like Microsoft. Fortunately - life goes on - and somewhere - someone is applying common sense - and MS will be one of those "do you remember that company" small talk items like Lotus, Digital Reearch and Wang. "Where are they now" bit players in a stream of blips that were, for a few years, the glitter queens under the fading disco lights of history.

But your response is good. Maybe Ken Levy can offer some additional embelishments that we "quote" to get around this issue.

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>>You could come up with a "fib". C++ is part of the installer. What is the database? It's a microsoft Rushmore database - the fastest in the world.
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>Terry,
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>Or try this line from Malcolm Greene.
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>"Our applications run on top of a runtime engine built with the latest version of the MS Visual Studio .NET C compiler. Our distributions use the most current releases of the MS Visual C runtime (version 7.1) and
>GDI++ modules.
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>Our applications are totally self contained, do not use ActiveX or COM components or update the registry, and can be installed in locked down environments without admin priviledges.
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>Our applications can be installed via a single standalone setup without dependencies on Windows Installer technology or they can be deployed as simple XCOPY distributions."
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>Regards,