Thanks John - that's pretty much as I remember it. There is nothing "loaded" about Jeff's challenge as there is in Kevin's "impossible" counter-challenge <s>.

Best,

>Gary,
>
>Here is Jeff Pace's original challenge:
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>... I can develop a distributed, smart-client, database application (SQL Server, of cource) using VFP9 which will be faster, more scalable, more reliable, more robust, easier to maintain, and in less time than the same application developed in .NET using either C# or VB.