I know that, John! *bg* What I was saying was that I step right through a command that says SET ECHO OFF and the value of SET( 'ECHO' ) doesn't change. Same with CONSOLE, but TALK sets just fine... More ideas?

>This happens to me all the time as well...since a DataEnvironment is custom to each form and the BeforeOpenTables event of a form is where I like to put my SETS, I sometimes forget. Like David points out, a Private DataSession form needs it's own SETS.

>>> Am getting form echo's in _some_ forms (same base class) so stepped through the function, and, to my surprise, SET CONSOLE and SET ECHO have no effect. Have reread docs, and I don't find anything that comes close, except a reference to errors turning SET CONSOLE ON.