>so when you close the first level, you can still see the next levels???
>or when you open the first level again, the second and third show up expanded?
>
>if the second case, that's the way it's supposed to work (AFAIK) -- just like the explorer...

No, the expand works fine. It's just that the symbol is not correct because I couldn't trap it in my Collapse() event because it never fired.

In any case, as you may have seen in another message, this MS Outline OCX is really not making it. I will switch over another OCX which is better than this.