Why all the name calling? .. you can't use the "C" word or the "L" word when there's small children in the audience.. :)

Seriously now, I don't get why everything is made so black and white nowadays.. a lot of these issues are not so darn complicated. But usually every issue is taken and every side takes its stance, and the name calling begins..

I have a little from column a and a little from column b, but I wouldn't call myself either. What's funny it's that if you are not on one side or the other or you switch sides (on different issues) you are chastised by both sides. Called and "L" or called a "C", or worse.. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

If you ask me it's an evil conspiracy by both sides, trying to sway you to their line of thinking. <grin> Actually I see this going on here during election time, when all arguing seems to come from "Hannity and Colmes" or the speeches of the candidates. Even when the "party lines" don't make much sense, people march to the beat of the drums..

Not to belittle your points Evan, just a gripe of mine..

>>Morality is an individual concept, not governmental. When it's taken to the governmental level, it goes beyond what is and isn't right. A government cannot legislate morality. When it attempts to, it is no longer a democracy, but a theocracy.
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>Hi George. I wasn't referring to governments, but liberalism and conservatism as movements. As ideas that individuals subscribe to. Some examples where liberalism has taken the morally right side and conservatism has taken the morally wrong side:
>- slavery
>- civil rights struggle
>- struggle for the equality of women
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>> However, this is the first instance where we involved ourselves in a pre-emptive war.
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>I'm not so sure. The following wars were pre-emptive
>- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
>- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Panama
>- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti_%281915-1934%29