>>This reminds me. History is written by the winner. Now, considering that there was no actual winner of the Vietnam war.
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>North Vietnam in the end ruled the whole country. Hanoi was renamed to Ho Chi Minh. The army of the south was disbanded. The foreign aides fled. Nobody won?
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You beat me to it....

One of Bill Murray's best lines ever was in the movie "Stripes" -- "This is the United States Army! This is the greatest fighting machine the world has ever known! We're 10-1!"