>>>>Propoganda, almost by definition, is at least slanted and at worst a fabrication. I remember during the Vietnam war the "Information" put out by the US and the "Propoganda" put out by the North Vietnamese. It's interesting to me to see an American President using the word "propoganda" in a postive sense (or else I'm misreading the quote).
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>>>This reminds me. History is written by the winner. Now, considering that there was no actual winner of the Vietnam war.
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>>North Vietnam in the end ruled the whole country. Hanoi was renamed to Ho Chi Minh. The army of the south was disbanded. The foreign aides fled. Nobody won?
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>Let's face it though. US would have won if they'd just nuked a few cities. That's how they won WW II. All that power and can't use it. Like becoming a black-belt in karate but knowing that if you used it in self-defence you'd be thrown in prison, so you let yourself get beaten.

I'm not so sure. Rent the "Fog of War", which is an interview with Robert McNamara. He was the architect of the Vietnam war. He said that America failed to understand the enemy. 1000 years ago, the Vietnamese threw expelled the Chinese and have been battling for their lives ever since. Even the Mongols, couldn't crush them and they ruled from China to Hungary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Vietnam

The occupation of Germany and Japan (largely by the US) was an amazing coup. It turned 2 countries with deep seated beligerence to the west, into friendly pacfist states.