>I allowed myself to get sucked into an unwinnable arguement here, and now I'm bowing out. It's pretty clear to me that my views are in the minority here. That doesn't make you (plural) any more right, or me any more wrong. I believe we went there for the right reasons, that we need to stay until the job is done, and that the US has the right to defend itself and its citizens against threats real or potential, in the manner that the administration and our military sees fit. Ugly things happen in war, and that's what this is.

People just have different values. You're not wrong and many on the other side aren't necessarily wrong either.

Some feel spreading freedom and democracy is the right thing to do, and others feel that it isn't our (America's) business, you know, "as long as I got my freedom and democracy, who cares about the others who are really oppressed". And still some think war is never the answer.

As the old saying goes... Only time will tell.