>>>> Today, though, governments everywhere thrive on FEAR so it is much more in their interest to over react. Even here, though we have it far less pronounced than in most other countries.
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>>>Another word for Fear is Terror. Which would make The goverment Terrorists. The thing they are trying to save us from, is the thing they are making us into.
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>>Do you think that's true?
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>>Do you think the government is making us into a society that treats women like animals?
>>Do you think the government is taking away our freedom of religion?
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>>That's "them." They hate us because we drink and gamble, and say nice things to women instead of beating and vieling them.
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>>If the government has to be not-so-nice in order to defend our open society from religious nutters, then I think that's OK. I don't think being not-so-nice is equal to becoming an Islamic Jihadist. It's too bad that's the first analysis you make.
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>Well, Mike, I think Greg is more right than he is wrong on this.
>Saddam was not a "religious nutter" and he was not threatening the U.S. I agree he was a nutcase, but that expands YOUR argument to include just about anyone we might choose.
>But the main thing is... what has your government done for "YOU THE PEOPLE" lately (and mine for me)? The answer is clear as a bell - NOTHING.

That's your opinion. But even if you're right, does that make them Islamic Jihadists? No, I don't think it does.