Eylon,

To say that we develop in VS is only accepted to those who are not aware enough in software development arena. But granting the argument is valid, still you have end-up of saying on the actual development you are using VFP, VB, VC etc.

IMHO, sometimes I end up of saying that the reason why VFP is not being pushed equally with other tools is because VB is Bill Gates and VFP is Fox Software still. VB is legitimate child, VFP is adopted. And to push VFP equally with VB is saying that VFP is equal with VB which is also saying that Fox Software Team is equal with Bill Gates, a big blow to him. It's a matter of pride you know. :-)


>Hi Arnon,
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>IMHO, it seems the main issue is not a technical one (VFP versus VB etc.) but a general feeling of the fox community being unloved by MS... personally we all are loaded with work, Devcon was fabulous but we are all yearning for more recognition and an ironclad commitment by MS to perpetuate the product until the 4th millenium...
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>As the main problem seems to be how we market ourselves (and our developing in VFP) - maybe the solution is to say we develop in Visual Studio - and keep on using whatever component of the Studio we need. Strictly speaking this is: a)true b)makes everyone (customers and MS) happy.
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>>Jess,
>>What about Visual F++
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>>Arnon
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>>>>MS did a lot of damage with the marketing of FoxPro. Take a tip from
>>Borland. Something very similar happened with Turbo Pascal in that it came
>>out of favour. Then Borland released Delphi and begun a very agressive
>>marketing campaign combined with sales offices intent on getting a copy in
>>through the corporate door. They realised that once they could open their
>>minds and see the product, they would like what they saw.>
>>>>But they had a problem. The argument always came up from others who were
>>pushing their own favourite language that "wasn't Borland going under?"
>>"No-ones using Delphi" and other rumours. Still Borland pushed on. Now it's
>>being used as a serious development tool that is a serious contender in most
>>corporations and businesses here.
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>>>DELPHI is just the new name of PASCAL in short, just as INPRISE formerly
>>BORLAND. If MS decided to change the name FOXPRO to erase that "DEMISE"
>>mindset, what would you suggest???
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>>>Add to this if you have in mind:
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>>>1. VISUAL DATAPRO
>>>2. VISUAL TAHOE
>>>3. VISUAL SPEEDPRO
>>>4. VISUAL DATAOBJECTS
>>>5. VISUAL FOXOBJECTS