>Hate to admit this but I've been using fox products since Foxbase+. Started back in the mid 80s and then skipped a few years and then used it off and on and finally nonstop for 11 years now. I used a good frameword for many years so when I switched back to vanilla VFP it was another adjustment for me. My biggest problem is that if I don't do a certain function or use some properties of some common controls for a long time I just plainly space out and forget. I tend to forget the most simplest obvious stuff too for some reason and go totally brain dead. Age, being a blonde, who knows! :o) Sergey and others have saved me numerous times when I get in my spaced out mode! :o) *G*

Without loosing our way, we would not enjoy the thrill of finding our way home!