>>>I can see this scenario happening more then yours.
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>>Let's get this clear. This is not my scenario. This is simply a devil's advocate scenario to show that nobody has yet come up with anything on either side that I'd accept as proof. Neither side has said anything beyond (boiled down), "This is what I believe". Sorry, not good enough. I don't have a lot of interest in the fact that some believe Bush because that's what they want to believe, or that others think he's lying because that's what they want to believe.
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>>Such arguments don't impress me.
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>I wasn't tryin to impress you. Just throwing out an alternative opinion that is just as valid or just as silly, however you want to look at it. :)
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Sorry, Sam, I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the arguments I keep hearing that really amount to nothing more than "I choose to believe Bush and his cronies - ergo - they are telling the truth."

>>In my own opinion, Bush and his crew are dangerous to democracy, but as far as their true intentions, well, I have no "Nixon tapes" to back anything up.
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>Well at least I got you to say that it's your opinion, regardless of how silly it may be.