>When I open up my form designer I can only choose 1 and 2 although it says that there is a 3 and 4 in the help file. How do I select these ?

Jeroen --

You can set it in the Show() method, but I would recommend that you look at the VFP online help before you try this. One of my colleagues just reminded me that 3 and 4 are mainly for backward compatibility, so my suggestion may be a bad idea in your case.

Bill