>>I *have* seen VB6 ... incremental upgrade with *some* simplification of data >access...the Data Environment in VB6...hmmm...where have I heard that one >before. Jaw ain't dropping ;-)
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>I hope it is not a goal of yours to be part of a beta program<s>. As I said, this stuff is under NDA. If you are not under NDA, then you should not have seen it. At the very least, not admit to it.

John --- I can talk about features that have been reported on in the media, can't I? I'm not under an NDA. If I was.....this discussion would not be taking place. Someone demonstrated it to me. I have kept my mouth shut until now....look over at devx.com....they're openly reporting the new features.

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>>OK....define free ride?
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>Simple, alot of folks simply assume they are better designers and builders of database apps than VB developers - simply because of the VFP tool.
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Yeah, OK, I've seen that. There is a certain amount of hubris in the VFP world when it comes to database design....I'm trying NOT to apply it.

>BTW, you never quantified you phrase of what "serious data processing" means.

An enterprise solution with a number of different front-ends, serious transaction load, formal requirements studies, formal ERD or PFD (or CRC for that matter), monster database or databases with dozens of tables....etc etc.