>>Would one make light of oil supply if all of sudden gas become too expensive. Or if companies close down becuase of lack of energy source? Or if thousands of people loose their jobs because of oil?

>Actually, Sam, this has happened twice in my lifetime, when OPEC decided to flex its >muscles.
>And I remember that some President - I think Nixon - said that the solution was to develop energy-efficient replacements for all oil-consuming products. It was actually a great idea, a way to put growth into a badly suffering economy while at the same time helping to make your (and ours and the world's) future much brighter. But it never amounted to anything as the oil embargo was lifted quite soon after and we all went back to our normal lives.

Jim.
Don't you think if it was that easy and straight foward, someone would have developed an alternative source by now. Why not the Germans or the Japanese? Why does it always have to be to Americans? If you want it and it's relatively easy, do it yourself and quit complaining


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>I'm not just asking you, but I'm just asking in general. Yeah we could produce other source of energy, but how long would that take? Can our economy survive long enough to convert to other source of energy?

>Too bad the early 70's program of the President wasn't followed.
Too bad President Bush's alleged program to emphasize development of hydrogen as a fuel seems to have died quietly.

Ever wonder why it died quietly, or is this another problem US has to deal with on its own?

>Too bad Walter Cronkite and his rich buddies don't want a wind farm 20+ mile off Nantucket even though it would be barely visible. With help like that nothing is going to happen very soon. NIMBY is alive and well.

They have bunches of these wind powered generator in the CA bay area too. But for several months out of the year they shut them down becuase the Animal protection groups complained that birds are running into them.

>So it's much easier to "secure" your oil than it is to develop alternatives. And that will work until the day the shipped oil volume starts to drop permanently, which they say is sooner than we think. Then we'll face the problem you expose above, probably no more ready than we are today.

So what is the solution Jim. We can all sit here and curse the United States or some one can do something about it.

>>I agree that there are lot of slime balls in the oil business, but isn't the assurance of fair market price of oil worth fighting for? After all oil is worlds blood line, isn't it?

>Fair market price? Hah!
Katrina proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that "fair market price" is a myth!

I don't know Jim. 25 years of $1.30/gal or lower, and three weeks of $3.00/g doesn't seem all that bad. What is it now about $2.10 and in some places below $2.00?

>As regards the slime balls... I continue to be amazed that corporate executives happily/wilfully screw their customers at any opportunity to make a few more cents profit YET THEY PERSONALLY SEE VIRTUALLY NONE OF THAT PROFIT IN THEIR OWN POCKETS. What is it that drives these people????

Your patented anti-corporate rant. It is so good... :)
I agree.