>The question really is, should you get someone elses framework, or build your own. If you don't purchase a framework, you end up doing something similar by yourself.

Well there is another question. I have talked to peaople at big project shops that use frameworks. When a VFP framework project gets in trouble - and that can happen a lot because somehow these shops would rather substitute a framework for skilled software designers and skilled software developers. And when the customer starts to gripe - the project gets in trouble - it's not the low-skill hiring practices of the "framework" shop or the "framework" that gets blamed. No - instead it's blamed on design flaws in VFP.

I don't mind frameworks. But if you use a framework - use one without fox in the name - and don't tell your clients you're doing it with VFP - dad-nab-it!:-)