>>Go for it because then we are discussing how each dev tool handles data >>and *not* comparing dev tools per se. Therefore we do not need to remove >>anything from either dev tool but rather focus on how data is manipulated >>in one vs another.

Exactly.... we are trying to take an objective look here at these issues. I just replied to a message from walter that you might want to look at. It re-focuses the discussion on tasks and how we can see objectively how each tool does them.

>>Personally I believe most all major dev tools have strengths and >>weaknesses. Beyond broad brush stroke comparisons and obvious core >>functionalities I think comparisons quickly become pointless. >>Furthermore, I think individual developer skills (or lack thereof) more >>often than not will erase actual or perceived benefits of one dev tool >>over another :)

Yes each tool does have its own set of advantages/disadvantages. This thread came from someone basically claiming .NET was not suitable for data work. I disagreed. Which is why we are here discussinh this now.

As I have said already we need to lift the covers and show in detail how each of these tools can do the same job. Developers here will form their own opinions...

Thanks
Rodman