I guess I'm the wierd one... :) Thanks!

>Hi Bob,
>
>The _SCREEN is internal part of the VFP desktop, below titlebar, menu and toolbar. You would want to set _VFP object properties

WITH _VFP
>	.left = 0
>	.Top = 0
>...
>

>>I'm setting up my development environment in 9.0, and running the following command:
>>
>>WITH _screen
>> .Visible=.t.
>> .left = 5
>> .Top = 140
>> .width = 1218
>> .height = 830
>>ENDWITH
>>
>>
>>I am wondering why I have to set top=140 to get the visual foxpro screen to be close to 0? i.e., the upper left hand corner of my monitor. If I set it to 0 the whole menu bar and toolbars are off the screen.
>>
>>I have a dual monitor XP SP2 system with screen res. of 1280x1024 on each monitor.
>>