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06/01/2006 09:04:31
Mike Yearwood
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
 
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05/01/2006 17:09:48
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Forum:
Politics
Catégorie:
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Titre:
Divers
Thread ID:
01081166
Message ID:
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Hey Jim

>>>>>>>1. Take nutcases off the street and put them back into mental institutions. That way kids will be able to learn to socialize amongst each other in/around their neighbourhoods.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How will you do this without changing any laws?
>>>>>
>>>>>I believe that governments used Constitutional rights as the EXCUSE for saving all the costs of housing the nut cases. So they can go back to housing them again with no problem. They just gotta wanna do it.
>>>>>There have been unrelated Supreme Court rulings where the good of society has outweighed an individual right, and dangerous people (pedophiles, not guilty by reason of insanity murderers and people like that) can go back where they were until the government decided that saving money was more important than protecting its innocent citizens.
>>>>
>>>>What is your definition of a "nutcase?"
>>>
>>>Pedophiles, not guilty by reason of insanity murderers/people-who-have-threatened-other-with-weapons and people like that.
>>>Basically, any type of behaviour that would have warranted a legally mandated prolonged stay in a mental institution 25+ years ago.
>>>The way things are now kids are actually in danger and parent simply cannot take the chance of letting their kids just out and about in the neighbourhood for fear that a pedophile will come across them and do nasty things.
>>
>>Ok, I'm definately in agreement with that. I'm not sure what the solution is, but I've always had a sense that institutions rarely actually helped anyone, and it was more or less caretaking.
>
>Same here. I think the main objective was to keep them off the street and it did that effectively.

Did you see that David Suzuki - Nature of Things where they discussed discipline and violence. It's natural in humans and other primates. We learn that it's not acceptable by doing it and getting it done back or being punished directly and immediately.

Separating the violent kid from the others means no learning. Putting violent kids together means they learn that violence is normal and even necessary.
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