What is gained by avoiding fisa? The evidence collected becomes a product of an illegal search and is no good in court. Unless they are going to avoid the courts all together and make these people disappear why no get the retroactive warrents? Do you support the holding of (or what ever Bush feels like doing to) US citizens?

You have said you have no problem with Bush's actions. Is there a line he could cross that you would object to? Assuming he thought what he was doing was in our best interest to protect us.

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>One of the jobs of the Presidency is protection of the people. If, in his view, he deems it necessary to monitor a subset of the population for potential threats, I have no problem with that. How big is the subset? How was the monitoring done? We have no idea. Would anything discovered in the course of the so-called monitoring stand up in court? Probably not without a warrant. But IMHO the idea is to prevent terrorist attacks - not put people behind bars.