>>John , >>I don't have a problem with the enhancment made to enhance developer >>productivity >>but between Nacny's and my msgs there was someone who asked about "end user >>enhancments" : > >Arnon, > >And don't forget the wizards which now actually use good class libraries to build their results. The application wizard builds on an actually useable framework. > Jim, I think that the person that wrote "end user" enhacment talk about developer tools - but there is no doubt that the wizard are better and that and FFC is a very good addition Arnon