Hi Gaylen

>Not sure if this is the same problem as you have but the pageframe would shift upward. But it would only do it if I had a pageframe with a grid on it.

Not the same problem but I will surely keep this in mind, thanks a lot. As I mentioned I was able to resolve the problem to the extent, but I had to put in a line of code in Refresh(), now I have reservation about populating Refresh() for the fear of slowing the stuff in the long run.

>>Yikes, I had to put the following code in the Form.Refresh()
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THIS.pgf.HEIGHT = THIS.HEIGHT - THIS.pgf.TOP - 23